tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post114680700310908178..comments2024-03-27T11:18:53.456-07:00Comments on Temple of the Seven Golden Camels: Some drawing help from Vance...I thinkmark kennedyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11953166248647413142noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1147465693418669762006-05-12T13:28:00.000-07:002006-05-12T13:28:00.000-07:00Ed-Thanks for clarifying!Ed-<BR/>Thanks for clarifying!mark kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11953166248647413142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1147460131647332902006-05-12T11:55:00.000-07:002006-05-12T11:55:00.000-07:00Those are Vances drawings. He usually wrote captio...Those are Vances drawings. He usually wrote captions that way. Joe Grant owned a greeting card company for years and Vance printed small edition books. Perhaps there is a connection there. Vance wrote with a more informal style and Joe wrote with a very tight style. besides, Vance's drawings were more appealing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146863111471960872006-05-05T14:05:00.000-07:002006-05-05T14:05:00.000-07:00thanks! both j's and your clarification really hel...thanks! both j's and your clarification really helped! i think i get it now.T.J. Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11158393263623678372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146845165444300662006-05-05T09:06:00.000-07:002006-05-05T09:06:00.000-07:00well put, j.scott- there's no right or wrong answe...well put, j.<BR/><BR/>scott- there's no right or wrong answer about buttons on a shirt. The point of scale is: a shirt can read as a shirt by it's shape, if need be. You don't NEED buttons to say "shirt". And if you do want to draw buttons, don't draw twelve buttons with four holes in the middle of each one! Just draw three big cartoony buttons - think Mickey's shorts. That way the buttons read quickly without the audience having to stop and figure out what they're looking at. Anything in the drawing with more detail will draw the eye and the audience will think it's more important. So be careful where you put your detail. And everything should be working together to sell the OVERALL story point.<BR/><BR/> And if you're trying to say "cop" draw the badge big and clear. Buttons don't contribute to the idea of a cop. A badge does.<BR/><BR/> But if the buttons are an important story element, then draw them with the level of detail that they deserve to sell the point. <BR/><BR/>Does this help?mark kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11953166248647413142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146844724402185282006-05-05T08:58:00.000-07:002006-05-05T08:58:00.000-07:00The way I understand it, 'scaling' is just the pro...The way I understand it, 'scaling' is just the process of using size to ascribe a heirarchy of importance to elements in a drawing. For example, baby eyes in cartoons are 'scaled up to emphasize their presence over everything else giving the whole drawing a 'cute' feeling. Same thing with Jessica Rabbits bust. Its 'scaled up' to to give her a siren look.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11589152423016392480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146843985721519582006-05-05T08:46:00.000-07:002006-05-05T08:46:00.000-07:00i'm just a little lost too. this is the first time...i'm just a little lost too. this is the first time i've heard 'scale' used. so, it's simplifying to make the function of the object clear? is it also exaggeration like in the cartoon of the two people? do you have other resources or links about scaling so i could read some more about. you definitely peaked my interest!T.J. Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11158393263623678372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146842545024909752006-05-05T08:22:00.000-07:002006-05-05T08:22:00.000-07:00Before I came to Disney and got involved in story,...Before I came to Disney and got involved in story, I had a background in comics and gag cartoons. For me, it's always about communicating instantly. Making things read at a glance.<BR/><BR/>Once in story, I continued this way of thinking about drawing. I guess it worked. Vance seemed to approve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146836265154546722006-05-05T06:37:00.000-07:002006-05-05T06:37:00.000-07:00Thanks for all the feedback!scott- Part of "scale"...Thanks for all the feedback!<BR/><BR/>scott-<BR/> Part of "scale" is that you simplify everything to make it's "function" clear. Making the policeman's badge bigger helps clarify it and show that he is a policeman. But I'm not sure why the collar and buttons would be bigger. They don't contribute to the idea of "policeman". Am I understanding your question correctly?mark kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11953166248647413142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146827080524990992006-05-05T04:04:00.000-07:002006-05-05T04:04:00.000-07:00Hey Mark,The idea of scale, or 'scaling up' is cov...Hey Mark,<BR/>The idea of scale, or 'scaling up' is covered realy well in Don Graham's Composing Pictures as well. Its an interesting concept to try to consciously apply.Excellent stuff as always, thanks for posting it.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11589152423016392480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23438334.post-1146816704528361782006-05-05T01:11:00.000-07:002006-05-05T01:11:00.000-07:00I'm following this blog every morning and I just w...I'm following this blog every morning and I just want to thank you for sharing. I'm so grateful! Please continue and never end these lessons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com