Friday, May 12, 2006

"Dynamics of Animated Drawing" by Glen Keane

Speaking of drawing three-dimensionally, here is an old handout by Glen Keane on the topic.

When I was a freshman at CalArts (1987-88) Glen taught the upperclassmen. He did several handouts for them, all of which I finagled a copy of. Most of those handouts have made their way to the web, but I don't think this one has made it to cyberspace yet. I couldn't find it, anyway.

"Think around the form" is a great way to put it - your drawings have another side to them. The "unseen" side that is turned away from the viewer is still three-dimensional and exists in depth. On page 5 where Glen talks about making a decisive change in direction he is talking about thinking of drawings in planes. Thinking of objects of having definite planes (or definite changes in direction on their surface) makes them easier to turn Tin space and animate. Actually, I wouldn't know how else to draw things in space other than thinking of them as being made up of planes (by which I mean flat surfaces). even whith Mickey Mouse or other characters without angular planes on them, you have to always be aware of what is the front side of his body, the side, etc. How can you show him twisting his body if you're not aware of where the front, side and back of his body are in space?

Anyway I hope that's clear (but somehow I doubt it). I will post more on this later. Just out of curiosity, let me know if this is out there and you've already seen it. I scanned them in at a good resolution so you can get a good look at them.





22 comments:

Benjamin De Schrijver said...

Awesome! Jim Hull had posted the second one a while ago, but in extremely low resolution. I've seen a lot of great notes on the net, but I don't think these have been uploaded anywhere yet. If they have, they sure weren't easy to find :-)

Thanks!

Gabriel said...

I don't spend an awful part of my time looking for that stuff, maybe because I'm not a professional artist. My primary source for this kind of information are three or four blogs (including this one), so thanks for sharing, I hadn't seen those before!

Cooked Art said...

I haven't seen any of these before.

Thanks for posting, keep it up!

Lubomir said...

Great post, thank's!

RoboTaeKwon-Z said...

Thanks for posting this, Mark!! I don't believe I have a copy of this! Great stuff!

mark kennedy said...

Thanks for the comments - glad it's fresh stuff!! Robo, I can't believe this wasn't still floating around by the time you got to CalArts.

Ernesto Melo said...

Thank you very much for sharing, Mark! This material is gold,
The drawing lessons of Glen Keane are infinitely
inspiring not only the comments but the amazing
roughs. You have an excellent blog, PLEASE post more material from Glen Notes and EVERYTHING you have!

Jim M. said...

So easy to look at and go "Yeah, I know that."

Then so harsh to look at my own drawings and go "Nope. Don't know that yet."

Keep the beatdowns comin! :)

RoboTaeKwon-Z said...

I probably had a really shitty copy of it. When I was in school, there was a tendency to hoard stuff like this and not let other people see or xerox cool stuff like this. There was one clique in particular that would often share among themselves and not let it get out of that close knit little group.
At times, CalArts felt like an overpriced highschool.

Ali said...

Thanks Mark.

Anonymous said...

amazing stuff. it's drawin time

Goobeetsablog said...

thanks for these.

It is all very logical stuff.
but so good to see it written down.

-brian

Cedric said...

Thanks so much for posting these. Terrific stuff! If you have more notes from Keane, I'd love to see them posted as well.

mark kennedy said...

Glad everybody likes the stuff! There are some more Glen notes over at AnimationMeat.com but I will post them here, too, I guess - people seem to be interested! Okay, more to come.

Robo - I hear you. Glen gave these to the upperclassmen when I was a freshman. Glen taught in the big Desin room and I used to go up on the second floor and look down into his class to hear him talk. When I saw him give a stack of these handouts to his TA I sought out the guy and asked if I could have one. The guy was not a nice guy and loved his little bit of power as a gatekeeper - he gave me a really hard time and said a lot of garbage about freshmen and stuff before he FINALLY threw one at me with a disdainful flick. Then I think everybody in my class copied mine.

The weirdest part was that class didn't seem to like Glen much. They were into a different vibe and, on the whole, were pretty anti-Disney. It was a little weird to see them pitch their film ideas to Glen and have him comment. I think that's why he only taught one year. It was pretty surreal to watch.

bleupencil said...

Am I the only one having trouble downloading the high res versions of these? The image stops loading part of the way through and no matter how many times I try to clear my cache or reload the image, it does the same thing :(

Awesome job on this blog, btw Mr. Kennedy, I'm really enjoying your posts!

Ali said...

bluepencil,

Try right-clicking and downloading the image.

mark kennedy said...

bluepencil-
If you can't get it to work I can try re-posting or I can e-mail them to you. Anyone else having trouble?

Jayenti Collins said...

i've seen a lot of his stuff on animation meat but all this is new and i'm loving it! great post!

Chloe Cumming said...

I love those pages, those are such beautiful drawings. You can't argue with that.

bleupencil said...

Hurrah! Everything's alright now - I managed to download them after all. Just in case others are having the same problem, the solution I found, is that you use a browser which has a download manager (like Netscape or Opera, I used the latter) and you can resume the download by right clicking on the item in question.

Maybe it was just my silly connection having issues, but I've never experienced such problems before so it was kinda weird.

Anyway, thank you very much for sharing these, Mark. Much appreciated!

Jenny said...

Thanks for posting this--my copy is just so beat up that it's hardly readable...you wouldn't believe it. I wasn't aware that I got it in '87! I thought it must have come later, from somewhere else(don't know why I thought so)...wow.

Anonymous said...

Still having trouble getting the hi-rez versions, and I tried with Firefox, Mozilla and IE.

Jpegs seem to work much better with blogger than PNGs.

If I could take up your offer of e-mailing them...

raff_montrealNO-SPAM@yahoo.com

(with NO-SPAM removed. ;) )